OUTLAW EAGLE MANUFACTURING

Rapidchaser · Joined: 26 Feb 2006 Posts: 198 Location: Edmonton

Hi People,
I'm thinkin of changing completely to full synthetic Rolling Eyes

Right now I'm using PENZ 40 in the engine and 10/30 in the overdrive.

Question #1 Is Synthetic good,like any better??
#2 Do I need to flush the engine before changing ?? Confused

Ive heard some good things about synthetic.
Anyone got opinions they might want to share,I guess that's three Wink

I'm also running straight STP in the pump and think I'll keep it that way?
That might be four. Laughing

Arthur · Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 1:24 pm Post subject:

RC

That synthetic thing has baffled me for a couple of years.First 10 people I asked swear by it and the next 10 people said stay away.Kinda sitting on the fence right now until my motor has enough hrs to use it,then I'll decide.-CL

Bald Man · Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 4:50 pm Post subject:

I've always been led to believe that you break in the motor with natural oil, then after 10-15 hrs change to synthetic oil. It is more resistant to heat and water contamination. Makes sense to me, being that a jetboat runs at high RPM for extended amounts of time. For the extra cost of the oil compared to the cost of a motor, it's an easy choice.

TOP DAWG · Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 5:40 pm Post subject:

Baldy is right, synthetic is far superior to mineral oil when it comes to heat resistance. Think of it like your engine oil boiling between the surfaces, ( crank and bearings ) synthetic will stay together at higher temperatures.

Rapidchaser · Joined: 26 Feb 2006 Posts: 198 Location: Edmonton

Thanks Guys,
This BBF runs 200deg. @ 3000rpm with the oil cooler.
There is more than enough hours on it to switch.

Do I need to do a flush before switching? (I'm thinkin not)
This year I'm going to be running a little harder. Rolling Eyes

Arthur · Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 5:20 pm Post subject:

Think I convinced myself to run synthetic this year but am curious on what oil to use.I know a few guys that run a 15W50 syn.Is that a good weight?(MOBIL 1)

DOC · Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 329 Location: Whitecourt

15/50 is good but its getting hard to get, seems like canadian tire only wants to stock 5/50 which is what im using. Ive used mobil 1 for years in my family boat and always had good luck.

Arthur · Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:09 pm Post subject:

DOC-Not sure if their all the same,but our ESSO bulk station sells it by the case and it's not a bad price if I remember correctly.Thanks-CL

Rapidchaser · Joined: 26 Feb 2006 Posts: 198 Location: Edmonton

Hey AIIOTR,
I too am having a bit of a hard time finding 15/50 Synth.
It seems theres lots of 5/40-50 around.

I heard from a Auto Racer that if you got any small oil leaks now, using regular oil, you will have leaks ten fold with the synthetic Rolling Eyes

I have some minor Rolling Eyes

leaks maybe one Laughing

I guess if I'm going to use Synthetic, I better replace some gaskets no?

I was told that not only does it have resistance to heat, but it does not
foam at the higher rpms.

Arthur · Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:54 pm Post subject:

Just called our bulk ESSO and they said they have lots.... Shocked

$57.08

for a six pack.If anyone want's some you can paypal me and I will be glad to ship it on the big grey dog.$57.08....I should have gotten into cross stichin' Rolling Eyes

Rapidchaser · Joined: 26 Feb 2006 Posts: 198 Location: Edmonton

Hi Art II:
You mentioned that you heard some negatives about the synthetic.
I am indeed curious to what they are saying!
Care to share??
Outside of putting the house up for collateral to buy some, Shocked

I can't think of any. Oh yeah, the leak thing Laughing

Cheers and good on Ya!
Emery

Arthur · Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 8:22 pm Post subject:

RC,
Lot of just hear say and opinion's over the years.The one that put me on the fence is a engine builder I know that listed a few things,but that was many beers ago and I have trouble remembering yesterday. Smile

His opinion just stuck in my head cause I know he knows engine's, and high performance.I guess if a engine wants to blow....it will probably just blow no matter what Wink

Rapidchaser · Joined: 26 Feb 2006 Posts: 198 Location: Edmonton

Thanks Arthur II:On the rocks Wink

I would like to get some more info on synthetic before I commit.
I heard through the grapevine that Pennzoil was changing the formula
for their 40/wt oil and it doesn't impress me very much.

I am confused as to what oil I should go with.
Having said that, what are you race guys using??
I mean if it's good enough for you guys, it's gotta be good enough
for my barge Laughing

What say you?
Cheers ,
Emery

SouthIdahoGary · Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 295 Location: Wilder, ID, USA

For more oil info than you even thought existed.........

http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/ubbthreads.php

oil is a changin' and some of these folks seem to have a good handle on it. Like every forum, you need to read a lot and ponder.

SouthIdahoGary · Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 295 Location: Wilder, ID, USA

And another very interesting article that has more info than you can even digest about oil...

http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=136052