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Dale



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 11:29 am    Post subject: 2014 class rules Reply with quote

I have been sent the final draft of the 2014 Canadian class rules.

The Canadian Boating Federation – Western Zone/ Jet River



Unlimited Jet Class – 300 Series Recommended Numbers (U300)
• Hull any shape or material with a minimum length of 16 feet (4.88m)
• Unlimited engine restrictions or modifications, any exhaust c/w mufflers
• Jet Engines do not require mufflers
• Propulsion – jet drive
• Roll bar (well mounted & braced) chrome moly recommended


“A+” Jet Class – 200 Series Recommended Numbers (A200)
• Hull any shape or material with a minimum length of 16 feet (4.88m)
• Engine displacement shall not exceed 470 cubic inches (7700 cc)
• Superchargers, blowers & turbos are allowed at 1.8 x cubic inch ratio
• Oxygenated Fuel Allowed
• Exhaust - any exhaust c/w mufflers
• Propulsion – jet drive
• Roll bar (well mounted & braced) chrome moly recommended
• Or/AMS Spec Engine, 565 cu in, No Oxygenated Fuel
• Or/US BBFX Class (502 cu in)


“LSX” Jet Class – 200 series Recommended Numbers (LSX200)
• Hull any shape or material with a minimum length of 16 feet (4.88m)
• Stock Crate Engine shall be GM LSX 454 part #19244611(620 hp version)No mofications
• No overbore, no sleeves, no grinding, no cutting, no filing, no milling, no porting, no balancing or engine modifications, no valve seat modifications, untouched factory heads only.
• modified cooling systems allowed, air/water bleed ports, can be enlarged or added, with or without water pump.
• Any oil Pan(no dry sumps or vacuum pumps allowed)any valve covers, any ignition or distributor
• Any intake or fuel injection allowed, intake modifications allowed, Any carburetor(s) No Oxygenated Fuel Allowed
• Repaired engines must use GM parts pertaining to that engine.
• Exhaust - Any exhaust system allowed c/w mufflers
• Propulsion - jet drive
• Roll bar (well mounted & braced) chrome moly recommended
• Or/Old B-Class 366 cu in Motors, Oxygenated Fuel Allowed




“CX” Jet Class – 100 or 200 Series Recommended Numbers (CX100 or CX200)
• Hull any shape or material with a minimum length of 16 feet (4.88m)
• Stock Crate Engine shall be GM LS3 Engines 376ci CT525
• GM #19259233/525 Fuel Inj., GM #19271821/525 Carb
• GM #19244549/480 Fuel Inj., GM #19171225/515 Carb
• Any carburetor, or fuel injection engines, normally aspirated only
• Stock crate intake manifold with no modifications
• Repaired engines must use GM parts pertaining to that engine.
• any oil pan(no dry sumps or vacuum pumps allowed)any valve covers, any ignition or distributor
• No overbore, no sleeves, no grinding, no cutting, no filing, no milling, no porting, no balancing or engine modifications allowed, no valve seat modification, untouched factory heads only
• modified cooling systems allowed, air/water bleed ports, can be enlarged or added, with or without water pump.
• Exhaust – any exhaust system allowed c/w mufflers
• No Oxygenated Fuel Allowed
• Propulsion – jet drive
• Roll bar (well mounted & braced) chrome moly recommended


“FX” Jet Class – 01 to 99 Series Recommended Numbers (FX99)–Crate Motor Class
• Hull any shape or material with a minimum length of 13 feet (3.96) No Glass Windshields
• Engine – GM ZZ4 355 HP CRATE engine GM part number 24502609 c/w stock GM intake
• Repaired motors must use GM parts pertaining to that engine.
• No sleeves, no milling, no roller rockers allowed, No porting, no polishing, no grinding, no cutting, no filing, no balancing, no port matching or modifications, no valve seat modifications, untouched factory heads only.
• any ignition system, Any oil pan(no dry sumps or vacuum pumps ), any valve covers
• Carburetor – 750 CFM maximum & 1” spacer thickness maximum 3 only 0.060 gaskets
• Exhaust – any exhaust system allowed c/w mufflers
• No Oxygenated Fuels Allowed
• Propulsion – jet drive
• Roll bar (well mounted & braced) chrome moly or aluminum


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who decided the LSX rules because it sure isn't even close to what was submitted. Here comes the $5000.00 sheetmetal intakes. Someone trying to sink this class already?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

agreed there mark! i understand maybe if its addressing a reliability issue but not a for a performance gain ! guess some just cant leave stuff well enough alone wouldnt be right i guess if an engine shop cant make money off what is to be a CRATE class. but on another note its nice to see some of the old class engines being alowed to compete rather than sitting in a corner collecting dust. should let the ol C class engines compete in cx as well! just my 2 cents
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the old B engines allowed was decided before and is great. I like the idea of C engines in Cx class. They maybe have a slight power advantage but are also a lot.
Yes it sure does seem like there is an agenda somewhere but I guess that happens in these types of things. Just why would they allow intake modifications ANY intake. That is WAY too open in my books. The ideas that have been submitted did keep the costs down while allowing a little "bling" so to speak. The submission was any mass produced intake, must be run as an off the shelf piece. No porting allowed. Saves the class only a couple of thousand an engine.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok maybe $5000.00 and engine. Laughing
Come on guys lets get some thoughts. In my opinion those intake rules are way to vague!
Should read "only GM parts pertaining to that engine"

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes Mark it should read (GM parts pertaining to engine)
Looking over the Western Zone Rules
#4,#9 need reveiwing
My 5 cents worth Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 1:58 pm    Post subject: Lsx intake concerns Reply with quote

I've raced now for a considerable time and rarely do affordable and race engine collide, the obvious exceptions being cx and fx classes. Opening the door to non gm part numbered intakes is either open or closed, the grey area rules will be exploited , so a go or no go rule makes things clear. I plan on running this engine package and I for one appreciate a clear rule such as this.
Ultimately the race is between driver and the river, how the rest of your class does is up to them . Over aggressive lines or any other of a thousand other variables dictate how well one driver compares to another and energy wasted after rules have been established seems rather pointless.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for chiming in guys.

Ok I am game.
If it was only a GM # intake it would be fine but it does get hard to tell the difference between cx and lsx classes. How about just no sheetmetal intakes and no modifications. If someone wants to spend a bunch on porting an intake (which is about all a person could do and not get caught real easy then let them). The holley intakes are all completely cast and not much improvement can be made there without being caught real easy. The gm ones are the same,, Mast, sure is factory ported. You may be able to do a little better but not enough for you to really make a difference. If I am wrong them someone just explain why.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the old C motors being allowed in CX as well, there still are a few of them out there,
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This version of the rules was sent around to the White Court, Peace River, Grande Prairie and FSJ groups by the western zone. It bounced back and 2-3 changes were made and this is was had and this is what the 4 groups all agreed on.

Tech inspection of the proposed intakes was the biggest reason we decided to go with any intake in the LSX class. It is one less thing that needs to be looked at. The “crate LSX” engine does not come with an intake and the intake ports on the head are not allowed to be touched. Also it was agreed that the LSX class is close to the CX class now. This will also help the LSX get a little faster and run better with the “A” class in 2015.

The best Sheet metal manifold out there is under $3000 retail. There are some that run much higher $$, but not likely any of them will make any more power than a good tuned single carb. Port matching is very cheap and affordable most aftermarket manifolds are made small and need to be done. Another thing that doesn’t need to be checked Tech.

The old “C” motors fit in the “B” class rules. And will have to run with the “LSX” and “B” boats. We can’t mess with CX class, it is working very good as is.

The wording on the GM parts have been changed.

Dale
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Makes sense, CX is working very well
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 6:03 pm    Post subject: ZZ4 discontinued.... Reply with quote

My understanding is that the ZZ4 is no longer available from GM:it will be replaced by the ZZ5
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

400hp should make all FX boats see 90+ All day long....I always wanted to try a ZZ383... Be interesting to see how the FX will transition from this decision from GM. Shitty for everyone in Mexico, US, NZ and Canada who own a ZZ4
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

be lots of race prepped ZZ4's for sale for pleasure boats thats for sure.
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