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ZZ383 crate engine coupled to a kodiak 3 staqe pump
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ForPetesSake



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:40 pm    Post subject: ZZ383 crate engine coupled to a kodiak 3 staqe pump Reply with quote

Hi does anyone here run a zz383 425hp stroker with a kodiak 3 stage pump? Any noticable gains with speed, pump spinning out because of more hp? any info will be appreciated!
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Medicine Man



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I run a zz 383 with a 212 Hamilton, works great, good on fuel, carry big payload.
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Arthur
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have one....love it! Coupled to a SD-309, I think it's the best bang for your buck!
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Canadian Turbine



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arthur wrote:
I have one....love it! Coupled to a SD-309, I think it's the best bang for your buck!
How is that combo out of the hole? My 18' with a 350/309 combo is a bit slow out of the hole when there is extra weight in the boat.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine rips out of the hole....doesn't spin out at all.... (figured it would with the nozzle)It takes off and accelerates very well. 'A' impeller
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will be changing out my 350 to a 383 in the next few weeks, so it will be interesting to see how it all works out.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once i do the engine swap i will post how it all worked out.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good looking tub! You will be impressed with 425 reliable HP.
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got the engine in and runs great its just the engine temp that worries me it is running at 200-220 degrees, it has a 160 degree thermostat now. Heat exchanger is clean and no tubes plugged, lots of anti-freeze, water pump is good.........Is it normal for this engine to run at this temp?
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been running a 383 for almost four years, i have freshwater cooling mind you but even with the temperature sender right in the cylinder head i usually run 185 - 190 all day long. 220 seems a bit warm to me but if the probe is near the cylinder head it would be warmer than up @ the thermostat, is what i have seen. is it 220 even when crusing, or just warms up at idle ?
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

when its ideling its at 180 and 220 when running 4000 rpms.
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this a carburated engine? Mabey its running lean ? yea my crusing speed is only 3200 rpm as well, but im running a berkely with and AA impeller not sure what the kodiak pump is like, but there should be reduced engine effort if your same pump was driven by a 350 first now a 383, with the longer stroke. Did you swap all the induction system from the 350 to the 383?
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes it is carbed and everything from the 350 swapped over onto the 383, going to try a richer setting like you mentioned tomorrow, maybe my timing is off also, we set it at 14 degrees before tdc. I was told that maybe try 10 degrees at 650 rpm so will try this also. Man there is a lot of torque, (a huge
difference between the kodiak 350 and the 383), in what little time i had it out!

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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i bought a zz 383 for my eagle which had a kodiak two stage, it was very impressive until i broke a rod and destroyed the whole engine, had 10 hours on it. GM refused to cover it under warrenty because i pulled the oil pan and heads off to take a look.


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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the first thing I would check would be the thermostat, maybe it's faulty, try removing it all together,and see where you run at, if its ok its your therm, if not its a blockage somewhere, are the gaskets under the heads correct and not blocking the water pathways, etc etc
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