OUTLAW EAGLE MANUFACTURING

[Alumaman]

For 2010 Canadian rules. The LS class will be renamed to CX class and will allow any of the 376 or 392 crate motors from Dodge, Ford, or GM, all under 400 ci. Naturally asperated only.
More meeting results to be out later.
Happy now Will.

[Will R]

yeeeeee f^$%&n haaaaawwww right on thanks for the good news!on that anyone want to buy and unlimited blower motor that just needs a new rotating assembly...cheap let me know!hey wait a second....well sh!t diet and excercise now...damn it.lmao!

[Arthur]

[Will R]

yup you're right they circled the problem for gm hahaha

[Arthur]

[mikeyjl]

Good to see gm,ford dodge.My guy from the south said Ford wants to seal the drivers not the engines

[Alumaman]

My top 10 on the criteria that will keep this class successful;

1. based on a crate motor
2. affordable and readily available
3. has good reliability and longevity
4. expected to be available and unchanged for consecutive production years
5. brings new racers into the class
6. provides for competitive fairness
7. is easy to tech.
8. accepted by other countries
9. recognised by UIM
10. satisfies personal preference towards a particular manufacturer


The LS designation which originated in referance to the LS3 engine, was changed to CX as a gesture of good faith towards making this class open to all manufacturors. The CX stands for "Crate X-perimental". Lets hope that its as successful as the FX class.

[boosted]

sounds perfect!!!!

[Will R]

yup yup!

[RPM]

CX = ...... let me guess Will your ordering up a chev right ? ha ha

[MISSBHAVEN]

I have done a lot of research on the LS engine over the last year in preperation for this class and the following is what I've found:

- Current MSRP on the sealed GM CT 525 at our local GM dealership is $700 less than the non sealed LS 376/515 version.

- The GM LS CT525 and LS376/515 are identicle engines except as follows;
-- LS376/515 Dynoed with 650 cfm carb, CT525 dynoed with 750 carb, giving it the additional 10 hp.

-- CT525 is sealed, comes with a superior baffled racing oil pan design for better oil control, ATI SFI racing harmonic balancer, timing chain tensioner changed to an LS2 tensioner designed for better chain control in FULL on/off throttle racing applications.

The only issue with any of the carbed LS engines for our type of racing is the Coil on Plug ignition system, the MSD/GM controller is poorly designed and can't recharge the coils fast enough after about 2 minutes at WOT. No one else but White Water Racers race at WOT for long extended periods. The EFI engines don't have this problem as they use either the factory ECU or an aftermarket ECU which works fine. I have spoken with many builders from the US and they confirmed the problem stems from the MSD/GM controller and the solution is either to switch to a distrbutor or use a GM/Delphi mefi 4 ecu, cut out the injector connectors and installed resistors, add a carb tps sensor and a map sensor. The mefi 4 will run off the factory cam and crank sensors and is very durable and easily tuneable.

[WILSON]

How difficult would it be to put a distributor??? (I mean: selecting the proper one)

Does the "common" MSD distributor fit? Does it have to be a special space age thing??

[DOC]

You can buy the package from gm, its not hard to install.

[Will R]

geez the ford seems to be getting more and more attractive isnt it?!cheaper than the ls,no having to buy extra stuff to make it work right...hmmmm.just simple old school stuff that works...for less

[MISSBHAVEN]