OUTLAW EAGLE MANUFACTURING

[Alumaman]

Before things get off track lets go back to Will`s first post.

[SouthIdahoGary]

[boosted]

Well put Gary. Thats is why either leave as is or go to the gm sealed crate engine including oil pan if it will fit the boats.

[Viking502]

Maybe even look into running same pump / impeller / intake setup.
Combine that with sealed crate engine and you may start to even the playing field. Just my 2 bits

[Rapid Transit]

everyone has to have fuel, what about all using the same fuel source,e.g. same provider,same truck, or tank or whatever, but all the engines would have to run pump gas . sounds to me that this would help even the field with very little effort

[Forplay]

And what is the reason for leveling the field? Get to watch boats all pass by at 1minute intervals just like they started? Last time i checked Crate class means "crate engine" not crate boat class. This sport is hardly a spectator sport to start with, so trying to make it NASCAR is pointless, you'll just lose the racers. 

I hated watching the stupid Players Iroc series, boring.... I miss the days of watching Harry Gant win the Daytona 500 with no fenders or hood. That is racing.

There is hardly a day that goes by that I'm not thinking of ideas to get another .2mph out of my boat. The in-between days are usually spent working to pay for it then trying it. That's racing to me - the continual efforts to push yourself and your equipment to the top. I'm in this to race, no drive mrs daisy around. My boat has gone faster than it ever has this year, just got bit with a lemon crate and it cost me big time. And so did 3 others get bad engines as well I'll add. And by bad engines, I mean blew up & cratered within 2hrs. Mine broke during break-in!

WHICH would just have easily happened with being sealed ZZ4's. So I've spent 12K+ on two engines to get a runner, sure look's like it would have been cheaper to get a dyno'ed one that works for a few grand less in hind-site.   

Slowing the fastest boat's to the lowest common denominator for what reason? And I'll say this now - 

I don't know ANY single racer in my class that would put and engine in that does not comply with the rules period! To suggest otherwise is utter BS. The fastest boats this year were well setup, organized, and put in a ton of hours to get there. My hats off to those guys, great job. I'll vouch and defend any one of then in a second about having "cheated" to get there. If someone really believes that's the reasons, then fork the 500 for the protest. That rule and option is there.

If somebody really wants to get 10 boats together that all have speed limiters on them and race 60 miles down the river - start a new class and have at it. I'll be in my shop screwing around with my boat trying to get another mph out if it. Lewiston's in another month, and I gotta whole lot of races to do next year.

Garett

[RED ROOSTER]

Some really interesting points. A simple way to level the playing field could be to run with the ready to run zz4, comes with a carb and distributor....no goodies.
I had a great time at the races and almost everyone was great to deal with and the volunteers where awesome.
I was a little confused with the "385HP" zz4's as well, but as Richard mentioned, 385 hp at 5400 rpm only looks good on paper.
zz4 class definitely levels the financial playing field to some degree but boat still stands for bring out another thousand ! Even when buying a hull you can spend large and an ultra lighweight or 20k on a used tunnel.
When the top guys are shaving weight by the ounce and spending 100's of hours tweaking intakes, spoons, grates etc. it comes down to much more than extra horsepower.
This is a little of topic, Why is the penalty for not finishing a race only 1.1 times the slowest boat ? That's only 6 minutes for a one hour race ?!

[jack]