OUTLAW EAGLE MANUFACTURING

[eddie]

[TOP DAWG]

uh , what canadian team would that be I wonder ????????????????

[Coyotitto]

That would be S. King. Please do not get me wrong as i can see both arguments but i agree with the guys from N.Z. to ban the bigger units. There is a lot of technologies we could employ to get us down the river safer here for example helicopters low in front of us as guides but wear do you draw the line between safety and a competitive advantage. You do need to remeber where we came a bunch of avid river boaters who decided to pit there skills against each over for bragging rights as to who was king of the river. P.S. they were not running GPS.

[boosted]

They were also only going 80 mph.

I find it kinda funny that a decent gps would have alerted Russel/ Spencer of the large rocks coming up on his fatefull Smokey run this year. It would not have gave them an advantage but it would have saved the big crash. Luckily they were not hurt, but it came close to being bad. Do we have to wait until it is bad until we decide that it would be nice to have some sort of warning system on board of the impending doom. I am all for competitive racing but we don't have to be red necks to do it(allthough I am one). Doing crazy things is great for the adrenaline rush and is awsome and that why we do it. Doing crazy things without regard for safety equipment is stupid.

When I think back of alot of the crashes that have happened there are more than a few that would have been averted with the proper use of a decent gps system.

[Hines]

Hey fellows you guys are all good racers,leave the gps in the truck maybe everbody will make the start,rocks will always be in the river da,channels will always change,prerun do whatever you dont need more shit in their to distract the nav,or driver,how many bad accindents i mean bad crasies has their been,just stay with good old racing.Later.

[boosted]

[Hines]

Boosted i don't race boats,been on the river lots,around the races lots love it,involued in a 2005 grandam JERRY BICKEL car 1283hp 1800 with the little red button,but i just wrench,DOC knows the car.Later.

[boosted]

That is what I thought. Unless you are travelling the river at 100 + mph then I would consider your comment a little unvalid. Having said that you are of course more than welcome to your opion of what we should do. Don't want to be donkey but I just wanted to keep things clear.

Any how my views are known and have been posted so this will be the last from me on the subject unless there are specific questions.

[MISSBHAVEN]

Prior to the UIM meeting during Oct 11-17, I tried to contact Tom Stanley who is the CBF representative attending the UIM meeting to see if he could voice our concerns on this subject, however it looks like it was too little too late. I've attached his email to me below.

[Bald Man]

Good post Jesse...Move on and live with the present rules and change them if you can later.
Next.....

[Itsworthit]

I believe we can put it in our advance program, allowing them in Canada if the race committee is in agreement with allowing them, for the 2011 worlds, not 100% sure tho

[TOP DAWG]

I spoke with Brian Mcgregor on the weekend and he's awaiting the details from the UIM. Its possible this rule might be flexible, you see some of the rules imposed by the UIM can be modified and changed by the hosting country, now nothing is certain but if this rules is one of these then its possible that with a mojority vote by the Canadian Worlds Championship committee it would be possible for the canadian worlds race to allow the use of GPS's larger then 4"

[Dale]

I do agree with Willy the wording of this proposed rule change is not good but the reasoning is sound. At the rule meeting in Mexico the New Zealand group wanted the use of GPS in the boat totally banded. We, Canada, USA and Mexico, disagreed that they were needed so the navigator could communicate safety hazards to the driver. For this reason the hand held GPS was put into the rule so that it could only be used by the navigator and the drivers eyes would stay on the river.
This may not be the greatest way to keep safety in the sport but it is much better than “NO GPS in the boat”.
I do agree that we should not make rules to keep technology out of our sport, but sometimes there needs to be some compromise as to how we keep racing safe and fair.
As for the King accident is GP they would have hit that rock with or without a GPS. Spencer said he got off the race line and went down the wrong side of the rapid, you only see and mark the hazards on your race line. He would not have seen this rock when pre running.
As for the screen size the rules states “maximum 4 inch screen” which will be measured top left corner to bottom right corner.
There will be a rules meeting after the Canadian race and I’m sure there will be a lot of discussion at that time.

[ntjetboater]

As an avid GPS user and Instructor of these little devices I have been reading and watching this with interest. When we followed the races I often looked at the units in the boats and wondered how much effort racers put into programming the units with important data. I will not comment on the rules and screen sizes but on the safety side I feel I should throw in my 2 cents.
A GPS unit that is programmed properly can be a huge advantage for the race team. If the map data sets are upgraded within the unit and then when pre-running you take really good notes to enter into the unit and add named wpts you can easily stay in the race channel of choice and should be able to avoid most if not all obstacles. It would also enable you to mark and plan to take every short cut possible, in this instance it does create an advantage for the team that spends a couple hours entering data into the gps. As for the GP rock strike..if they had a gps and had the race lines entered in the unit they may not have gotten off the preferred line as you would see the line choice well in advance.

[will b]

Next thing you guys will want is autopilot