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Itsworthit
Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 432 Location: Whitecourt
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:47 am Post subject: |
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I would like everyone to think about this for a bit, money is tight, and we all want to race, if we could get a motor to last, like 4 seasons, how many more racers would be interested or get back racing, you could take a, lets say for arguments sake, a 1000hp motor and de-tune it to fit a 750hp class, it should last a helluva lot longer, and possibly be able to run on pump gas, then more of the focus would be on set-up and driving abilities then |
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RPM
Joined: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 189 Location: Nechako
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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i'm not in at 750 HP but i like your idea for the jet "dyno" . if it could be calibrated and reliable it would be a good way to set-up restricted Canadian classes and if guys want to run in the worlds classes they can do that when it's here or if they travel to the other worlds races . _________________ Rick's Precision Machine
Prince George B.C.
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RPM
Joined: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 189 Location: Nechako
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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one bad is having to open up your jet so all the guys lurking around (like me ) can get a look at your impeller and intake _________________ Rick's Precision Machine
Prince George B.C.
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Itsworthit
Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 432 Location: Whitecourt
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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He He,
I was thinking of setting it up in a security tent so that all the go fast secrets would remain secrets |
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DOC
Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 329 Location: Whitecourt
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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Another reason people leave boat racing. _________________ HANG ON NUTLICKER !! |
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boosted
Joined: 04 Jun 2009 Posts: 378
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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DOC wrote: | Another reason people leave boat racing. |
So Doc, you left because Kary had a security tent?
If you got back into boat racing would you go for a hp class or a crate class. Being that the speeds were the same.
Lets say 550 hp class or the new ls class so 100 mph boats. _________________ Mark
Lets go back I think we missed one rock! |
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DOC
Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 329 Location: Whitecourt
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Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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No i didnt leave because Karey had a security tent, dont get me wrong theres nothin i like better than WOT at 100 plus for 30 to 40 minutes, or blazin around the circuit 6 times i just couldnt afford it anymore. I put around 100 passes on my dragster this summer, burned 2 barrels of fuel, broke 1 rocker arm, changed the oil once, set the valves after every weekend, won some money, finished tenth overall and had a helluva good time and my 622 is still running strong. Im gonna have louie have a look at it but im pretty sure he wont find anything wrong with it. 1 new set of tires for 800 $ a barrel of fuel and im racin again. I think the only way i would race boats again is if i found a really rich sponser or win the lottery. Next year 7 of our 12 races are for 5000 $$ 1 for 3000 $$ and the rest are 1200 $$ hope to win some serious cash next year. _________________ HANG ON NUTLICKER !! |
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Alumaman
Joined: 26 Jul 2005 Posts: 306 Location: Whitecourt
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Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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Dave...cheaper yes. But can it compete with the excitement of floating down the river clinging to the nose of your boat, then getting it dried out and winning the next day. |
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DOC
Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 329 Location: Whitecourt
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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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I wouldnt wish that on anyone, way to much work !!! _________________ HANG ON NUTLICKER !! |
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Itsworthit
Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 432 Location: Whitecourt
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:37 am Post subject: |
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I couldn't make the rules meeting, can someone fill me in on what the feelings were among the attendees regarding this proposal |
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sandman
Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 260 Location: The captains table
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:15 am Post subject: |
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Karey,
Consensus was that it is too easy to "detune" an engine for a dyno pull, then have it right back at it's max hp at the flick of a switch or other devices. Too easy to plug a carb vent and make a motor run rich for the dyno pull, just as one example. There were a whole pile of other examples! Someone a little more motor savvy than myself could rattle off a dozen ways to cheat. Also, we have enough trouble finding people to do tech inspections etc now, add in a heavier work load and there is a chance that nobody will want to volunteer services, this could force the race commitees into making it a paid position.
If the FX rule of "Confiscating" a cheater engine ever gets enforced, which in my opinion is highly unlikely, you will probably not see that person wanting to do the tech inspection again. Rules are rules, bla, bla, bla, but the reality is that someone will not too easily just give up their 5-10K engine. It sure won't happen in some parking lot after tech inspection! It will have to be a voluntary thing and we all know that it would be next to impossible to enforce. The 3 race suspension rule is enforceable, make it 2 years instead and it has teeth!
Hopefully there is some honor among racers, but demonstrations to the contrary show up all the time. Sealed engines are the only way I can think of to get past this, but then what hoops do we go through to get an engine rebuild re-certified? Any engine builder can re-certify an engine for you, tweaks are optional, hello wallet racing! _________________ It was like that when I got there! |
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Coyotitto
Joined: 19 Sep 2005 Posts: 54 Location: Red Deer River
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:22 am Post subject: |
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maybe we could all get our ex wife's to be techs I am sure they would not have any problem taking engines. On second thought thats not a good idea they might show up with their lawyers and end up with the boats to. |
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Itsworthit
Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 432 Location: Whitecourt
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:17 am Post subject: |
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I know mine has pretty sharp teeth |
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rokchucker
Joined: 15 Sep 2009 Posts: 36 Location: Ft Assiniboine AB
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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Coyotitto wrote: | maybe we could all get our ex wife's to be techs I am sure they would not have any problem taking engines. On second thought thats not a good idea they might show up with their lawyers and end up with the boats to. | if that was the case,any offender (real or imagined)would be WALKING home. in their ginch. hell,when my ex figgers out that im building a race boat that may be enough of an offence . _________________ if ya cant hit bottom ,beat the hell outta the sides |
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MaxPower
Joined: 09 Jul 2005 Posts: 48
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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 5:18 am Post subject: |
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I certailnly don't have the solution, I thought fxsb would be one. I'm glad I didn't get into it, put your heart and soul, all your dough, build a legal fx boat and some jackass spanks you with a cheater motor and gets away with it. Sealed engines is probably the only way. |
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