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rockskipper
Joined: 03 Sep 2011 Posts: 15 Location: Drayton Valley
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:42 pm Post subject: any custom weld owners out there |
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would like to hear from a few of you and hear how these boats do in our Alberta rivers. I hear they are pretty heavy units. I like the ones with the closed in canopy. what do you outlaw boys think of these boats.
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coho dr.
Joined: 27 Jun 2010 Posts: 18 Location: Mission B.C.
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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I own a 21' CW Storm 350 kodiak with the AT SD203AF. It has 14 degree radius hull ,6.5 bottom. The boat is designed for white water not running skinny water. Very well built boats , but now everyone out here in B.C. seems to own one.
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river rat
Joined: 27 Jul 2010 Posts: 42 Location: canada
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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the intake noise is very loud in the one i was in . the ride was ok. fit n finish not impressed,if you can buy a custome made boat like OE, bratt jet, edge marine, the quality doesnt even compare to a assembly line boat. should be ok to run north sask,atha b,peace, rivers hope this helps
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DIGGINSWEATINSWEARIN
Joined: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 47 Location: Deroche B.C.
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 6:56 am Post subject: |
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Thats kinda like comparing apples to oranges, I wouldnt want to be in a 16' lynx in big white water and at the same time I wouldnt want a CW in a small river. I currently own a CW Cobra, that has been beefed up a little ( .250" delta pad and .5" full UHMW) it helps a bit but not enough, im looking for a 16' Lynx to repalce it. just look under the floor, you might be surprised at what is not in the CW. Although the Storm is built alot tougher than the Cobra but nothing like an Outlaw.
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coho dr.
Joined: 27 Jun 2010 Posts: 18 Location: Mission B.C.
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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If we had skinny water here in the Fraser Valley, I would buy an Outlaw or Bratt Jet for sure!!! My Storm burns on average 7gallons an hour cruises at 26-30mph upriver 30-34mph downriver has a top speed of 49-50 mph . Not bad for a boat that weighs over 3400lbs. 70 gallon tank gives me lots of range for sure. If I were to buy another boat it would be a Precision Weld.
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DIGGINSWEATINSWEARIN
Joined: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 47 Location: Deroche B.C.
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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I have heard the PW's are really nice, I know a few guy's that want one as their next boat
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coho dr.
Joined: 27 Jun 2010 Posts: 18 Location: Mission B.C.
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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PW's are top notch boats. He specializes in Yanmar diesels with Hamilton 241 pumps. Hopefully you got your boat fixed there DIGGIN , I have had a few close calls on the lower Stave with deadheads. I think those would crumple all the above mentioned hulls for sure.
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Canadian Turbine
Joined: 02 Oct 2010 Posts: 38 Location: BC
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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PWs and CWs are deep river boats. OEs and FFs are shallow river boats. Yup, apples and oranges.
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DIGGINSWEATINSWEARIN
Joined: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 47 Location: Deroche B.C.
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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coho dr. wrote: | PW's are top notch boats. He specializes in Yanmar diesels with Hamilton 241 pumps. Hopefully you got your boat fixed there DIGGIN , I have had a few close calls on the lower Stave with deadheads. I think those would crumple all the above mentioned hulls for sure. |
They're taking care of it now, 7k up the upper stave, gets a bit lumpy
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rockskipper
Joined: 03 Sep 2011 Posts: 15 Location: Drayton Valley
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:09 pm Post subject: hull design |
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coho you mentioned the 14' radius bow, I hear the new hulls have a different design now then the older one. do you know the difference and when the change occured
Also what in there design makes them a white water boat? I know the bow looks a lot different then our boats up here and in videos i've seen, there seems to be alot of water spray hitting the windsheild hence the covered cabin area. Or is it also in the pump design, volume versus pressure, a lot of them run AT 312.
I like the covered in cabins or whatever you would call it. Do any Canadian companies make this style, is Precision Weld a Idaho builder or are they manufactured in BC
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On-Track
Joined: 15 Jul 2010 Posts: 79
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 7:57 am Post subject: |
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I believe PW are manufactured in Vancouver Washington USA. All these 4000 to 7000 lb larger style boat are mainly manufactured for the luxury. Mostly built for guys that dont' want to be out of the elements or do real serious jet boating. We don't see them up northern BC mostly down south on the Fraser or sitting on the large lakes in the Okanagan.
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coho dr.
Joined: 27 Jun 2010 Posts: 18 Location: Mission B.C.
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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Well I will let you know a well known guide has a PW and he guided on the upper Pitt river with it. 8 degree custom build. Ran shallow water no problem. They are not all luxury builds by the way.
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riverboater
Joined: 10 Dec 2009 Posts: 153 Location: Prince George
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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A good friend came up from Washinton with his p-weld water winnabago, large, heavy and diesel. We ran the upper fraser and most its small tributaries. yes we set him on a sandbar the first hour off the trailer. That was in Castle creek that was not wide enough to turn him around in. (Howard didn't read my signal and followed me up the creek). a little winch work and we had him out of there. (boat came with a winch) With a little dirty water training we had 5 more great days without any more bottom parking. We took this boat up some very small rivers, dragged bottom a few times, had to do surgery on the intake grate. (241 intake grate is aluminum). but have pic's in some very small water. It all boils down to experience, how you read water, and how big your nakkers are. large boats can go anywhere the small ones will. they are just a lot harder to get off the gravel bars. Unless it comes with a winch as standard equipment.
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