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Wet Dream
Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 65 Location: Whitecourt
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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:44 pm Post subject: 2010 FX Class Rules |
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For the racers who were able to make it to the meeting why the change to only Stock GM Intake Manifolds? |
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Alumaman
Joined: 26 Jul 2005 Posts: 306 Location: Whitecourt
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:59 am Post subject: |
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The "stock only" intake rule is based on trying to keep it as simple as possible for the new racer. That way they can just go buy a crate engine without having to do a bunch of guessing if they need a aftermarket intake. In fact the whole crate class concept is based on everyone having the same, affordable, engine, creating a fair and level field to compete in.
Actually this all began back in early 2007 when the Canadian rule set for FX was being developed in preparation for the worlds. At the time it was proposed to have "stock intake" only. But because the US clubs had a more mature FX group it was decided to go with "any intake" so as not to discourage any foreign racers from coming to the Canadian Worlds race. In 2008 and 2009 the discussions continued with the intent being to get the "stock intake" rule into UIM and common across all countries.
So it wasn't anything that was related to the 2009 race season. I am sure that there will be some upset and disappointed people especially if they are currently set up with an air gap intake. Because this is a stock crate class the rules will always be written based on what is in the best interest of the majority. Unfortunately the minority will sometimes feel to be left out. Much like allowing the GMZZ4 only, has left the Ford and Dodge out. Opp's did I start it again.
At the meeting I think the vote was unanimous, or close to it. |
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Will R
Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Posts: 677 Location: NWT/Alberta
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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lol no you didnt start again...almost but not quite!that zz4 has definatley proven itsell in this class and is fairley affordable for the average 9-5er to get into racing..which is what the class was intended to do!and done well by the number of boats in it.the ford although a perfect match for the zz4 is a little on the expensive side for entry level boating...so ill bite my tounge(however the frick you spell it) on this one.besides ive allready bought my zz4 for my son to race whens hes old enough and ready! |
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Arthur Outlaw Eagle Admin
Joined: 28 Oct 2006 Posts: 1654 Location: On the rocks
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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Can you be my Dad until he is ready??? |
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NO BRAKES
Joined: 20 Aug 2008 Posts: 202 Location: Edmonton, AB
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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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Are you still allowed a .030 over bore on the zz4 for 2010 in canada? what about the worlds next year? |
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RPM
Joined: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 189 Location: Nechako
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Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:45 am Post subject: |
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ya but the AMS built one shouldn't be . imo . i don't get with the crate classes where they allow blueprinted dyno tuned engines , but as usual how you goin to stop it ? i guess the sealed ones .... there probably close enough that with a weight rule class would show who's got the best set-up and driver _________________ Rick's Precision Machine
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NO BRAKES
Joined: 20 Aug 2008 Posts: 202 Location: Edmonton, AB
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Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:55 am Post subject: |
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Hey there RPM are you sure about the .030 still being allowed? I heard at the Grande Prairie meeting they decided nothing more than stock bore size and stock GM manifold will be legal in 2010. I would really like to know the final word as I had to bore mine out after last season. |
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Alumaman
Joined: 26 Jul 2005 Posts: 306 Location: Whitecourt
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Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:39 am Post subject: |
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Officially
There is no overbore allowed for FX.
The rules state;
•Repaired motors must meet OEM specifications & weights.
That means that the cylinder bore and pistons must be stock dimentions, thereby preventing any mod's including an over bore.
Intakes are required to be stock GM
http://www.outlaweagle.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2350[/quote] |
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NO BRAKES
Joined: 20 Aug 2008 Posts: 202 Location: Edmonton, AB
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Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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so who wants to buy a 355? |
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RPM
Joined: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 189 Location: Nechako
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Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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sorry no brakes , didn't know the rule changed, used to allow a .030 over . _________________ Rick's Precision Machine
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NO BRAKES
Joined: 20 Aug 2008 Posts: 202 Location: Edmonton, AB
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Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 9:36 am Post subject: |
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All good there RPM I know its a recent change for this year with the manifold. There are a few guys with motors for sale now I bet! My question lies with 355's in the worlds next year, are they changing the rule across the world or just in Canada? |
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Alumaman
Joined: 26 Jul 2005 Posts: 306 Location: Whitecourt
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Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:18 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | My question lies with 355's in the worlds next year, are they changing the rule across the world or just in Canada? |
The rule change was voted in at the UIM general meeting last year. Therefore they (the FX rules) are already in effect for all countries wanting UIM sanctioning.
Including the Mexico worlds next month. See Andre's post on the Mexico worlds, FX rules.
http://www.outlaweagle.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2382
Good questions though guy's. This way everyone in FX can be ready for our Canadian series, without any surprises when they show up for tech'ing. |
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RPM
Joined: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 189 Location: Nechako
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Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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NO BRAKES wrote: | All good there RPM I know its a recent change for this year with the manifold. There are a few guys with motors for sale now I bet! My question lies with 355's in the worlds next year, are they changing the rule across the world or just in Canada? |
guess you guys with rebuilt engines could race in the US . i know this has been beat to rat shit over the years and the Canada FX boat numbers have done better , but i think it might have to do with more guys with available bucks . i always thought the original US rules were good and still don't see how the current Canadian or UIM rules are any easier to tech . i've built stock zz4 appearing engines that are good for 500-600 rpm over untouched out of the crate engines . i know i could make a race or two with a stock appearing motor for alot less than a new crate zz4 and the cx525 is just going to have to wait . _________________ Rick's Precision Machine
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DOC
Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 329 Location: Whitecourt
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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I guess they know who to tech first now. _________________ HANG ON NUTLICKER !! |
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Will R
Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Posts: 677 Location: NWT/Alberta
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:40 am Post subject: |
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lol yup rick sorta let the cat out of the bag! hows the boat build coming rick? |
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