OUTLAW EAGLE MANUFACTURING

[Itsworthit]

OK, I do not, and did not like the new rule for the 15 min penalty for a motor change right from it's conception, and I was on the committee, and Yes it did cost me first place in my class this year, but that is not the reason for my concern, in my case, we were in front of the class in a couple of days, and my big question was, should we just take it easy or go flat out, well, being a racer and from past experinces, we went flat out, consequently we blew up, oh well, but my point is, what is racing, going fast and doing your best or just finishing, for a catastrophic failure there should not be a motor change penalty, this will keep more racers racing and trying to finish, if you want to change your motor because you think it is getting weak, that is cause for disqualification. I personally hope that this rule is NOT permanently adopted, my 2 cents

[allblowdup]

After blowing the motor (Miss B Haven)and getting the 15 min penalty I must say it has changed my views on it slightly. If the rule continues I think we will see slower boats and less all out racing in the future. The engines will become more detuned and run easier in a all out attempt to save the motor. We have already even talked about detuning our motors in an order to make them last and save some money. For me it would definitely take some thrill out of the sport. I have to admit that the rule sure did even out the boats as the fastest boat became on par with the most reliable boat. I guess I have mixed feelings on the subject. I just want to race!!!1

[Bald Man]

Might as well dip my toes in here too I know that I don't race anymore and my opinion is probably not wanted but that has never stopped me before.
Marathon racing has always been a torture test for man and equipment, thus the engines should be built for that. While I truly do appreciate the guys that strive for that last MPH out of their boats, it's rarely them finishing the race in first place. If we are talking about getting more people into racing then having it in place, it will make it more affordable. Could the Unlimited guys have a 2 engine rule and let them goes nuts with HP? By having a penalty, it will bring the majority of racers to build a engine that may have less HP but more longevity. Sure it will bring down the speeds but it will also have more boats racing to the end of the race. It may just add to the amount of guys racing. It was the main driver behind me selling my boat. I could not justify spending the money to complete properly.

[RPM]

Not sure if you need a engine change penalty if the DNF handicap wasn't so generous . But I think the engines need to be built and run so that they go the distance and if it doesn't then you should fall behind . It's not a marathon engine if you are changing it , do you get to change your boat if you destroy it ? I think it should be all the same package that starts and the driver and crew races and maintains so as to go the distance. Oh and Karey I would have sooner have seen you win by saving it a little rather building on a already huge lead and blowing up , same for Hakuna , his boat was really running nice, engine didn't even sound like it was working! You two guys sure seem to have your boats airing out nice and handling well too ! That Black Pearl sure had a nasty sounding engine that I was surprised to see last , must of had the best of the best in it cause it sounded like a freaking dragster ! For what I think? was a all new set-up did real well too , might be one to watch once they get everything perfect.

[Itsworthit]

RPM, it's not that we didn't think of keeping it for the end, we had one leg down the smokey that we took it easy, because of the other boats in the class had troubles, but we were only driving, not racing, so, you have to trust your engine builder, and race. I race whoever is in front of me, regardless of class, sometimes you win, sometimes you don't, racing is all about speed, otherwise we wouldn't all be trying to squeeze the last ounce out of our boats, mind you we all try to make the boats last until the finish, but like the age old saying goes "to finish first, first you must finish"

[DOC]

My 2 cents worth. It isnt racing unless your going all out. Whats the point in finding those last few mph if your not going to use them. I could have coasted on the last day, but thats not what the people that came to watch wanna see, they wanna see boats going all out. I tip my hat to Louie at AMS for building me a motor that lasted all week. If i wouldve kept a closer eye on that distributor gear that stripped off in GP, that motor wouldnt have missed a beat all week. Noel Hawkeys motor ran strong all week too. Maybe more guys should run C boats instead of B. I CANT talk for anyone else but i used my backup motor to set up the boat, then switched to AMS motor for the race so i didnt wear it out. If your doing boat set up and racing on one motor, i think its just too much. DOC.

[WILSON]

In the movie "The people Vs Larry Flint", Larry says: "Opinions are like the %$$hole. Everybody's got one".

Here's my opinion, worth 2 cents (Mexican currency, that is, 10% of the value of a similar opinion worth 2 U.S. or Canada Cents).

IF the concept of a World Title race is a "Marathon" (Last one was called "Great Canadian Jet Boat Marathon"), it implies a LONG DISTANCE event.

If we see it as ONE long distance event instead of a series of short distance events (or LEGS), I find it adequate to provide an advantage to whoever completes that LONG DISTANCE without changing engines.

The current UIM ruling gives the option to the race organizer to apply a NO ENGINE CHANGE rule. That's even harder than the 15 minute penalty rule.

The analogy may sound dumb, but in the Olympics, you don't see marathon runners sprinting as if they were racing the 100 meter dash.

The whole point in preparing yourself to this type of long distance races is ensuring that your motor will last. That's the reason only one engine change is allowed. Otherwise, whoever can afford two or three engines would have an advantage over those who can only afford one.

As long as this remains an amateur sport, costs will determine a lot of rulings.

Even professional sports, such as Formula 1 car racing have rules that tend to limit the advantage of "rich" teams vs "poor" teams.

If the engine change penalty, and /or the DNF /DNS penalties are not adequate, fine. Just don't call it a "Marathon".

[MISSBHAVEN]

[Itsworthit]

Wilson, Great analogy, but man is it ever hard to keep your foot out of the throttle and let someone go by you in hopes that they break down, but good point

[allblowdup]

Yup but it didn't work for us. Mind you we didn't let him pass he just passed us without permission.

[DOC]

MISBEHAVIN ill get your wings back to you as soon as we have a truck heading for gp. You can pick them up at kos shop. I owe you big time !! THANKS A MILLION. DOC.

[MISSBHAVEN]

Doc, my pleasure. It was nice to see part of our boat not only finish a race but actually win something for a change.

[Alumaman]

I tried, but failed and therefore also have the unfortunate affliction of "cant drive slow" no matter what the standings.
And so ... I'm not in favor of the 15 min penalty.
I commend those who drive every leg, as if every second may be required to win, spare engine or not.

In the case of the "overall title" maybe it is justified as an award of both speed and endurance.